1) glen creeps me out...i was hoping that storyline was over. why does betty let him hold her hand? are they emphasizing the comment don once made about her being a child?
2) why does peggy seem jealous of don and pete going to california together? I can't tell if she hates pete, or is still interested in him?
3) where is jane? does she even still work at sterling cooper anymore? they made a vague reference to her giving a baby gift, but that was it.
4) am i the only one who feels a little more sympathy for pete everytime they show his family? i was wondering where his mother kept her army of flying monkeys?
just my initial observations...cristin, feel free to use outline form when answering all my questions.
1) Glenn creeps me out also, and I was not happy to see him again. I was confused by Betty's behavior also, and it reminded me of Don's (out of line) comment that Betty is desperate for male attention. I wonder if it's nice for her to experience someone's affection when it feels safe, so when it no longer does, that could explain why Betty finally calls Glenn's mom.
2) Peggy should be annoyed. She appears to be working more diligently than the rest of the group, but will always be left out of some perks (drinking, trips) because she's a woman.
3) Didn't think much about Jane, just figured she wasn't relevant to this episode.
4) I think we see Pete quite differently because I almost never feel sympathy for him. I did feel badly that his mother was so mean and that his brother betrayed his trust, but earlier in the episode Pete wondered how long his mother could actually live, so I think the evil is hereditary.
1)When Glen first appeared on the screen, I thought at first he had aged quite a bit. In later scenes I didn't feel that as much, but I do feel (whether through puberty or good acting) his face has lost some of its innocence. I also thought it was telling when he said he came to rescue her. part of me t hinks it was as simple as a boyhood crush, but then another part of me starting wondering if Betty really does need saving...and who will be the one to do it.
2)Peggy and Pete have the oddest relationship. I always sense this urge in Pete to impress Peggy...maybe it's because his wife and family tend to immasculate him, and around Peggy, he can feel strong, successful, attractive, etc. Peggy's reaction to him makes me laugh -- it's this superficial acceptance bordering on slight distaste.
3)I was disappointed that we were cheated out the Jane/Joan showdown.
4)I don't feel any sympathy towards Pete. Yes, his family is horrible, but so was Don's and he decided to be a better man that his upbringing. (Though, admittedly, Don has his own issues.)+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
3) we were totally cheated...i want to see an all out brawl between jane and joan. my money is on joan.
4) you guys really think don is a "better man" than pete? look at what he's doing to his own wife. not only does he continually cheat on her, but lies to her face when confronted with the it. he actually gets mad at her truthful accusations and sits back and watches as she goes insane over it. i also remember an older episode where he was ready to just leave his family without a word, if that department store women would have agreed to it. he was also painfully cruel to his brother, the guy clearly needed his help. I could go on and on...the birthday cake, etc. don is the stereotypical wolf in sheep's clothing. i think we're going to see more of his cruelty in the future.
I dont' know what it is about Don, but I root for him. I think it's because he actually a decent person to those he respects and cares about. What he's doing to betty is terrible, but I think it's because she insignificant to him. She fulfills part of this "required" life he think he has to have to consider himself successful. With Pete, I haven't seen him display any warmth to anyone but himself. I guess what I am saying is that I root for someone who is 75% jerk/25% human vs. someone who is 100% jerk.
haha...it's true. i definitely root for don as well, but i'm still on the fence about what kind of person he really is. i view pete as the underdog, because he's the guy the writers make it easy to hate. i'm hoping his character is given more depth. i think they're trying... 1) they're emphasizing his troubled background. 2) he has a soft spot for peggy, which i view a redeeming quality.
I don't see Pete's soft spot for Peggy as a redeeming quality. I think it comes from his history with her and wanting to feel more masculine when he is so frequently emasculated at home. I do find Pete intriguing, though, since he doesn't even attempt to mask what a terrible person he is, and seems not to understand why other people have a problem with that. It's pretty funny.
I don't think so...i think he really likes her. she just didn't fit his image of the "perfect" wife. clearly the perfect wife didn't work out so well for him, she's so annoying. it should be interesting to see pete and don spending a lot of time together on this california trip. i also don't think masking ones bad intentions makes them a better person. i think it makes them worse. the pete debate goes on...haha.
The Pete debate will go on forever, or until you realize you are wrong.
It's not that I think Pete is more honest about being a bad person. The others have some moments of integrity and caring about others. Pete is completely lacking a moral compass, and so doesn't realize that he should hide what he thinks.
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1) glen creeps me out...i was hoping that storyline was over. why does betty let him hold her hand? are they emphasizing the comment don once made about her being a child?
2) why does peggy seem jealous of don and pete going to california together? I can't tell if she hates pete, or is still interested in him?
3) where is jane? does she even still work at sterling cooper anymore? they made a vague reference to her giving a baby gift, but that was it.
4) am i the only one who feels a little more sympathy for pete everytime they show his family? i was wondering where his mother kept her army of flying monkeys?
just my initial observations...cristin, feel free to use outline form when answering all my questions.
1) Glenn creeps me out also, and I was not happy to see him again. I was confused by Betty's behavior also, and it reminded me of Don's (out of line) comment that Betty is desperate for male attention. I wonder if it's nice for her to experience someone's affection when it feels safe, so when it no longer does, that could explain why Betty finally calls Glenn's mom.
2) Peggy should be annoyed. She appears to be working more diligently than the rest of the group, but will always be left out of some perks (drinking, trips) because she's a woman.
3) Didn't think much about Jane, just figured she wasn't relevant to this episode.
4) I think we see Pete quite differently because I almost never feel sympathy for him. I did feel badly that his mother was so mean and that his brother betrayed his trust, but earlier in the episode Pete wondered how long his mother could actually live, so I think the evil is hereditary.
Because I'm a copycat:
1)When Glen first appeared on the screen, I thought at first he had aged quite a bit. In later scenes I didn't feel that as much, but I do feel (whether through puberty or good acting) his face has lost some of its innocence. I also thought it was telling when he said he came to rescue her. part of me t hinks it was as simple as a boyhood crush, but then another part of me starting wondering if Betty really does need saving...and who will be the one to do it.
2)Peggy and Pete have the oddest relationship. I always sense this urge in Pete to impress Peggy...maybe it's because his wife and family tend to immasculate him, and around Peggy, he can feel strong, successful, attractive, etc. Peggy's reaction to him makes me laugh -- it's this superficial acceptance bordering on slight distaste.
3)I was disappointed that we were cheated out the Jane/Joan showdown.
4)I don't feel any sympathy towards Pete. Yes, his family is horrible, but so was Don's and he decided to be a better man that his upbringing. (Though, admittedly, Don has his own issues.)+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
3) we were totally cheated...i want to see an all out brawl between jane and joan. my money is on joan.
4) you guys really think don is a "better man" than pete? look at what he's doing to his own wife. not only does he continually cheat on her, but lies to her face when confronted with the it. he actually gets mad at her truthful accusations and sits back and watches as she goes insane over it.
i also remember an older episode where he was ready to just leave his family without a word, if that department store women would have agreed to it.
he was also painfully cruel to his brother, the guy clearly needed his help.
I could go on and on...the birthday cake, etc.
don is the stereotypical wolf in sheep's clothing. i think we're going to see more of his cruelty in the future.
pete's main fault is that he still hasn't learned how to be deceitful. he should take some tips from don in that department.
I dont' know what it is about Don, but I root for him. I think it's because he actually a decent person to those he respects and cares about. What he's doing to betty is terrible, but I think it's because she insignificant to him. She fulfills part of this "required" life he think he has to have to consider himself successful. With Pete, I haven't seen him display any warmth to anyone but himself. I guess what I am saying is that I root for someone who is 75% jerk/25% human vs. someone who is 100% jerk.
haha...it's true.
i definitely root for don as well, but i'm still on the fence about what kind of person he really is. i view pete as the underdog, because he's the guy the writers make it easy to hate. i'm hoping his character is given more depth. i think they're trying...
1) they're emphasizing his troubled background.
2) he has a soft spot for peggy, which i view a redeeming quality.
I always interpret Pete's "soft spot" for Betty as him leering at her, but that's probably just because I despise him as a human.
I don't see Pete's soft spot for Peggy as a redeeming quality. I think it comes from his history with her and wanting to feel more masculine when he is so frequently emasculated at home. I do find Pete intriguing, though, since he doesn't even attempt to mask what a terrible person he is, and seems not to understand why other people have a problem with that. It's pretty funny.
I don't think so...i think he really likes her. she just didn't fit his image of the "perfect" wife. clearly the perfect wife didn't work out so well for him, she's so annoying.
it should be interesting to see pete and don spending a lot of time together on this california trip.
i also don't think masking ones bad intentions makes them a better person. i think it makes them worse.
the pete debate goes on...haha.
The Pete debate will go on forever, or until you realize you are wrong.
It's not that I think Pete is more honest about being a bad person. The others have some moments of integrity and caring about others. Pete is completely lacking a moral compass, and so doesn't realize that he should hide what he thinks.
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